Bart Yasso is running. In addition to being host of the San Francisco
Marathon (look for Bart at the Expo and related events), he has
traveled the world over to running events. Bart’s book, My Life on the
Run is popular in the running community and beyond. He has been inducted
into the Running USA Hall of Champions. He has ridden solo across the
USA two times, competed in the Ironman five times and completed races on
all seven continents. He is Mr. Running USA, and it was a pleasure to
catch up with him in Colorado for an interview about the San Francisco
Marathon.
Thomas: It is great to host you here in Denver,
Colorado as you head to Colorado Springs for yet another race. So Bart,
lots to catch up on– Wipro as you know is the title sponsor for the SF
Marathon. Can you talk a little about how you got involved with the race
and maybe as a follow up what makes San Francisco unique out of all of
the races you travel to in the world.
Bart Yasso: Yeah sure. I am at a race every weekend.
I travel basically nonstop. San Francisco had approached me about being
a host for the race along with Dean Karnazes (an ultra runner) a few
years ago. And I just jumped on the opportunity. It’s really just a a
great weekend. We do a lot of clinics, seminars and just hang out with
the race director and race committee. And then of course on race day I
try to engage as much as I can with as many runners as possible. Whether
they are doing the half marathon, marathon, 5k or munchkin run. There
are so many races to choose from. It’s the only race I go to where you
get a choice of the half marathon, and you can run either the first
half, or the second half of the course which is so unusual. So yeah that
is such a pretty location first off. It’s always perfect weather to do a
race in. Summertime in July, in California! San Francisco has such cool
mornings and that is so hard to find in the summertime for a marathon.
It seems like its always about 55 degrees and cool-just ideal for
running at the start of the race. And even when the last person comes in
it’s about 55 degrees and cool.
Thomas: You mentioned how much you travel-it’s
literally a new location and new race every weekend. So here were are
less than two months before the SF race. And there are so many runners
(25,000 plus) all with different goals- Some may just want to finish,
others maybe want to hit a time, or compete in an age group. What should
training should runners be mindful of as we get closer to the event and a marathon in general?
Bart Yasso: Oh yeah, there is plenty to work on.
First off, if you are doing SF as your first marathon, I applaud you.
It’s a tough course, it’s just not the easiest marathon course out
there. So I admire runners who have the guts to say hey I’m going to run
San Francisco! But you know the first thing is that when you are
running a first marathon or half marathon, those first couple of races
are more about having to establish yourself—just getting a realistic
time about what you can do in one of the distances and then go from
there. And try to improve. The first few races should just be about
finishing and getting hooked on this great sport, and then hopefully you
will be doing this for many years. For those runners who have more
experience, just know this is a tough course. I would be training for
the course, the hills especially if you are in San Francisco and can run
them. For folks who are not in California, well they should be running
hills if at all possible. I feel sorry for some of the runners who don’t
have hills to train on because it will be a lot tougher. But if you
have some hills to train on, now is the time to train on them. And now
is really a good time to speed work for either the marathon or the half.
This is a great time to really ramp up the speed work. Work those speed
sessions and try to peak for the event about 15-20 days before the
event. Then you have to start that taper and really focus on storing
that energy for race day.
Thomas: Great stuff. We have lots of hills here in
Colorado to practice on. Let’s talk about the event again and getting
ready for the start, eating properly, and even resting. For folks coming
from different time zones the 5:30 am start time might pose some
challenges. What do you recommend for runners so they arrive rested,
stocked up with calories and ready to go?
Bart Yasso: It is an early start, 5:30. But you know
if you are coming from the East coast, you are probably going to awake
anyway. But there is still that simulation…if I was training for San
Francisco I would be doing my long runs at 5:30 in the morning, or at
least as close to that as possible so it feels normal to you on race
day. It does complicate things when you are talking about eating some
breakfast, especially for the marathon. I would suggest people eat a
light breakfast. I suggest about two and half hours prior to race time.
So that will really get you up early. So that does throw a little monkey
wrench in there. But you know there are so many products you can eat on
the course with the gels, and blocks and all of the nutritional
stuff-that is really great about an event like this—but remember you
should practice what you plan on eating—practice in your training. You
need to find out what really works for you. What makes you feel good
when you run. That is the key. So then race day and race weekend is
nothing new. And then I would eat my dinner a little bit later, because I
probably wouldn’t have too much breakfast if I was in one of those
early morning starts. I’d use the gels and blocks on the course. You
just want things to be a close to normal as possible with some
adjustments here and there.
Thomas: Final question: You have run all over the
world, been chased by a Rhino in Africa(in your book My Life on the Run: http://www.amazon.com/My-Life-Run-Wisdom-Insights/dp/1594869413), and have stories that fill a
book. Every runner has so many things that cross their mind during a
marathon or half marathon due to the time and energy it take to complete
them. But your story is really special-the illness that almost ended
your career, racing on seven continents and all of the thousands of
runners you have met. That’s a lot. What advice would you give those
first timers, or those just beginning to experiment with the full or
half marathon?
Bart Yasso: Yeah, sure…you know I’ve had a lot of
highs and lows in my career. I’ve been doing this for 35 years and I’ve
had a lot of good years. I was very lucky to get very few running
injuries. I had practically zero running injuries. But then I got lime
disease twice and it really beat me up pretty badly. I mean, I think I
said one time it destroyed my running career…but I mean it added on the
marathon distance it was like two minutes per mile to my time…just
overnight. Sighs…but I don’t say it destroyed my running career. It
altered my running career. It slowed me down a lot. It made me
appreciate more what I did have before. Its so easy to take these things
for granted. You out there training and everything is working fine, and
you do races at the drop of a hat. But then when I got sick it brought
back to home how lucky we are physically to do what we do, and I always
remind new runners how lucky we are culturally to do these things. That
there are races in every big city in America and you can pretty much do a
race every weekend if you want to. And that doesn’t happen everywhere.
And think about the difference in our sport from other sports. In
running we really are accepting of people of all abilities. We are
accepting of all cultures, religions and whatever—but we are really
accepting of all abilities. Think about it a lot of sports simply don’t
do that. And I think that is what is so special about running. And for
people new to the sport—they are at it at the height of running. There
are more people running now than ever. The percentage of women running
races is just unbelievable! Sometimes its as high as 70% in a given
race. As a travel around the world and do races, you know there are many
societies where people are suppressed from even doing races. Remember
this—you can go to a race where there are maybe 70% of the runners are
women and I bet maybe 90% of them probably don’t even know that less
than 40 years ago women were not even allowed to run in the Boston
Marathon. The first gender box for the Boston Marathon did not happen
until 1972. Think about that. When I was at the Comrades Marathon in
South Africa, (they call it a marathon but it’s actually 56 miles) that
race has been since 1921. Between the years of 1921 and 1975 they did
not allow the black citizens of South Africa to run the race. And the
country is 60% black citizens. So you can just imagine some of the
suppression that gone on over the years. And those days are gone we are
now accepting of everyone, and that just makes this sport so special. In
the end its just you against the clock. There are no shortcuts, you can
lie, you can’t fake anything. It’s just you pushing yourself. And then
of course, if you are lucky enough to be an elite runner, or elite age
group runner you can push for some of these times and be competitive.
And try to win. But the majority of runners it’s just them against the
clock. And that is the beauty of the sport—no judgments involved-you get
paid back for all the work you put in.